Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/07/2003 01:32 PM Senate JUD

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              HB 184-INDIVIDUAL DEFERRED ANNUITIES                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS announced HB 184 to be up for consideration.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL, sponsor of HB  184, said it deals with AS                                                               
21.45.305 -  insurance and individual deferred  annuities. Market                                                               
changes  have put  pressure  on  the need  for  an interest  rate                                                               
change on  the minimum  deferred annuity rate,  which was  set in                                                               
statute  in the  1970s  at  the current  3%.  Then  there was  no                                                               
expectation  that the  market would  be  where it  is today.  The                                                               
Division of Insurance wanted to lower  the floor to 1.5% with the                                                               
idea  that the  National  Insurance Commissioners  were going  to                                                               
come up  with a long-term  fix. They  did that and  the long-term                                                               
fix is a  model law and in section  2 sets a cap at  3 percent, a                                                               
floor at  1 percent and  a floating  average based on  a constant                                                               
maturity rate...                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE   COGHILL  said   that   section   2  allows   the                                                               
flexibility for insurance companies  to do a re-determination and                                                               
a transition period.  This bill has the support of  those who buy                                                               
annuities, those  who sell  them and  our regulatory  agency that                                                               
oversees them.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT asked if they  were getting into a turf battle                                                               
between the banking and insurance industries.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KATIE  CAMPBELL,  Life  and   Health  Actuary,  Division  of                                                               
Insurance, replied that she didn't  know of any such battle. This                                                               
was  brought  to  their  attention at  the  national  level  when                                                               
interest rates  started taking  a dive and  there were  3 percent                                                               
guarantees  in  the  contracts. Companies  were  concerned  about                                                               
solvency at  that point  and having  to guarantee  something they                                                               
couldn't  earn on  their monies.  Annuities  guarantee a  return;                                                               
something comparable  on the banking side  would be a CD  type of                                                               
instrument. These are longer term guaranteed contracts.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  asked if this  would change any  existing annuity                                                               
contracts.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAMPBELL  replied  that the  effective  date  provision  was                                                               
designed so  that it was  very clear  that it doesn't  affect any                                                               
contract  that  is  currently  in place.  It  would  only  affect                                                               
contracts that were issued after the effective date.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  asked why  they have  to change  the law  and why                                                               
couldn't  the annuity  folks recognize  lower interest  rates the                                                               
way  the rest  of us  have and  write lower  interest rates  into                                                               
their contracts from here on out.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CAMPBELL replied  that  the minimum  rate in  the  law is  3                                                               
percent and this bill provides flexibility for the rate to drop.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked if the  same problem would arise if interest                                                               
rates went to 0 percent.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAMPBELL replied that the model language in this bill still                                                                 
guarantees a return at 1 percent.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS asked if the Division of Insurance thought these                                                                  
changes were compatible with the best interest of the people of                                                                 
the State of Alaska.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. CAMPBELL replied the division supports the bill.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OGAN  moved to  pass SCS  CSSSHB 184(L&C)  from committee                                                               
with  individual recommendations  and  accompanying fiscal  notes                                                               
and asked  for unanimous consent.  There was no objection  and it                                                               
was so ordered.                                                                                                                 

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